Mikael posted a comment · Feb 22, 2019
I'd say Paul came close to "there go I but for the grace of God" Recognizing our human weakness, he cautions "be careful not to fall into the same" "Dear brothers and sisters, if another believer is overcome by some sin, you who are godly should gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path. And be careful not to fall into the same temptation yourself. Share each other’s burdens, and in this way obey the law of Christ. If you think you are too important to help someone, you are only fooling yourself. You are not that important." Galatians 6:1-3 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/gal.6.1-3.NLT
Deancooper posted a comment · Feb 17, 2019
Just yesterday I heard a pastor tell of talking to a lady who had gone to a very prominent evangelical seminary. She told him that many of the students were sleeping around. Even the married ones. And not just a little. With that kind of a start at becoming a pastor, I don't have much confidence that we won't see a LOT more fall. Or maybe we won't because nobody really cares anymore. But why do you say “there go I but for the grace of God”? Is this what Paul, Peter or John would say? Are you saying you can't really control yourself? And don't all these pastors who do fall have the grace of God as well? Why then do they fall? You make it sound like it's really out of our control. Well is it? Maybe the church could do well with a measure of judgement, like what happened with Ananias and Sapphira. Acts says that, "great fear seized the whole church". In other words, the church woke up and realized that some things are quite serious to God. And I'm sure that helped them to not repeat the same sin. Which means that once you believe something is serious, you can actually control yourself. No? Or think about how quickly you are to say that you don't want to condemn these fallen pastors but instead seek their restoration. I appreciate that God can redeem anyone, but you risk treating this way too lightly. "Don't worry", you seem to be saying, "we don't condemn you at all. After all, I might have done the same thing. But no big deal, we'll restore you right back to your prominent position". On one hand, your post seems serious, and then on the other hand, some of your words take away from the seriousness. I'm wondering when we will really take sin seriously.
Mathetria posted a comment · Feb 16, 2019
May God continue to bless you with the boldness to confront and discuss these difficult issues.