email@example.com posted a comment · Feb 25, 2021
I appreciate your response - up to a point. Yes, I cannot stand in judgement over any man or woman. I am the greatest sinner of all, and except for the resurrected Jesus I would have no hope. Grace must abound. And yet... where is the Church's righteous anger for the hundreds of women, perhaps children, who have been abused through this process. Where is the voice calling for repentance for this most grievous sin, and offering healing, restoration, truth and honor for all of the lives that are damaged or perhaps destroyed because the sin of a man. Not one of us can throw the first stone - but the Church must respond in an honest and just way to bring healing to an untold amount of victims if there is to be any possibility of moving forward in a new direction of trust - especially when it comes to sexual sin and the silencing of women in the current religious system. It will be shameful and inexcusable if as a body of believers we rationalize this away as "there but for the grace of God, go I." Rise up and awaken Church leadership. The time is now to address this in a holy way.
Dees posted a comment · Feb 21, 2021
Like many the Ravi Zacharias scandal shocked and grieved me. The women involved were not the only victims of this horrific double mindedness as I think of all the ministries connected who will now be suspect. If I have struggled wrapping my mind around this demonic stronghold on Ravi I think of his family; their shock, hurt, confusion, and for them I weep. This article was helpful. I appreciate Dr. Brown and his wife Nancy's input
Al M. posted a comment · Feb 21, 2021
"But Jesus, on His part, was not entrusting Himself to them, for He knew all men, and because He did not need anyone to testify concerning man, for He Himself knew what was in man."- John 2:24. This verse has kept me from idolizing (verses respecting) any Christian leader throughout my decades of being a Christian. I also believe that those who are the most judgmental toward Ravi Z., really haven't come to grips with "what is in man" - i.e. their own depraved sin nature, that will always express itself apart from the Grace of Jesus (in ALL it's forms, including accountability).
ehhemmer posted a comment · Feb 20, 2021
This is the best response I've read about the RZIM matter of tragedy, comprehensive and honest unpacking of the complex issues at hand. Especially meaningful to us who are called to be leaders in the body of Christ. Everyone needs to ensure they are held accountable, some to a higher standard than others, and everyone needs to get individually right with God, beginning with our own individual repentance.
shermruggles posted a comment · Feb 19, 2021
Under #1 in the 3rd or 4th paragraph, it should be "steel yourself", not "steal yourself" (I hope!).;-)
photo1257 posted a comment · Feb 19, 2021
his is the most disturbing response I have read. It’s wordy, wordy, wordy..... missing the point entirely when it comes to the victims under the hand of the abuser. The most healing response right now would be and expression of deep sorrow for the victims, saving all these divisive words for another time. Maybe your followers expect all of these words. Do you need to hear, “good job, Dr. Brown”. But can we please forget about the need of your readers, and your need for “an insightful response”... just a bit, and consider what would be the most healing for the ones who have been terribly abused at the hands of one who called himself a Christ follower. For all of us who call ourselves Christ followers, let’s keep our mouths shut with any words, except, how sorry we are for the broken and abused.
Swkh310 posted a comment · Feb 17, 2021
This is what happens when people put the messenger above the message. And by the way, does anyone really believe he acted in a vacuum? No one else at the church knew about this? His criminal behavior was protected because he was bringing in money.
michaelinaz posted a comment · Feb 17, 2021
A sheep goes astray one blade of grass at a time failing to look up to see where the Shepherd and the rest of the flock is.
WK posted a comment · Feb 17, 2021
I don't like this article. Why? 3 main reasons: 1. No lessons for the future - how to prevent the formation of stars and gurus in churches and ministries that everyone is afraid to give a feedback. 2. No lessons or reflections that creating a ministries and a church on the foundation of a strong personality is a mistake, because there is a high risk that in the event of success, such people may be he may be exposed to a mania of greatness and inviolability. 3. There is definitely not enough empathy for the victims.
wagsma posted a comment · Feb 16, 2021
Thank you for such a deep and honest analysis. The heart wrenching sadness I feel for every person who is devastated by this is so heavy. But God... and Only God can heal the wounds. Praying for the many.
home2buysoon@gm... posted a comment · Feb 16, 2021
The first thing that came to mind when I read about this is how quickly we as sheep follow and worship other sheep rather then look to the Shepherd only. We get discouraged when that sheep we are worshiping "lets us down". I have to remind myself daily I can only look to Jesus and worship him, He never fails us. Sheep can not lead Sheep lest we fall off the cliff.
NGirl posted a comment · Feb 16, 2021
The question here is not about being fallible, or even an occasional slip (although having one such sinful slip-up is bad enough).. What we're talking about, is wilful, carefully planned, systematic abuse of vulnerable women, who looked up to Ravi as a man of God. I agree we all need grace, but God does not look kindly at wilful abusers. Let's not forget that what he did, was practically rape (unwanted and forced sexual contact..) that is, not just sin, but a serious crime. If a man cannot control himself, he should not only step down from ministry, but not mingle with the public at all - for the safety of all.
Addict2Pastor posted a comment · Feb 16, 2021
Excellent article. I led a very rebellious lifestyle for many years, as part of that lifestyle sexual sin including pornography was normal to me. When I gave my heart to Jesus and began following my calling some of that "old man" followed me. I would spend all day in ministry or studying for my credentials and then in the evening when I was alone the sin would flood my mind and I would follow it instead of God's will for me to be holy. I found myself constantly asking for forgiveness from Jesus, but wondering if I was wearing out my "I'm sorry". The pull of sin from the world can be extremely difficult to say no to, but we MUST separate ourselves from the world. I believe the problem is two-fold: 1) The pull towards sin in this fallen world 2) The lack of the fear of God. We've seen throughout the Bible people like Sampson and David fall to sin. Jesus writes in Matthew 10:28 "...Instead, fear the one who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." I know I fall short with the fear of God. I've even preached on the fear being more respect than truly fearing the power of God. The grace of Jesus gives us the power to sin without the consequence of eternal death. This power of grace I have take for granted too many times in my life and allowed sin instead of fearing God. We must remember what Jesus went through, not just on the cross but before the cross, so that I may have that grace. My God was spit on, beaten, publicly humiliated by being stripped and verbally harassed. He did all that for me - before he even went to the cross. That is why I can make it through today without giving in to the sin the world pushes toward me.
Lastingcrown posted a comment · Feb 16, 2021
Thanks for the insight given. May the Lord stregthen us to daily dwell in His presence and learn to walk with him and not just working for him. I am blessed.
Paul Talbot posted a comment · Feb 15, 2021
This kind of thing is an eternally unfortunate consequence of professing believers being taught that salvation cannot be lost. When the perception of repentance is not "I must stop sinning in this way" but "I just have to say sorry to God after I've sinned because he'll never let me go", then most will almost inevitably bear the fruit of particular sins over and over again. 'For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.' (Heb 10:26-27)
Sheena posted a comment · Feb 15, 2021
Thank you for this article. I have to say, it feels very light on empathy for the victims of his sexual harassment and abuse. Yes, you briefly mentioned that we should listen to them, but they also need to hear LOUD AND CLEAR, how this disgusting behavior DOES NOT represent the heart of Jesus and is FULLY CONDEMNED by the church.
B.W. posted a comment · Feb 15, 2021
all I could do at hearing this was to weep!! for all concerned! You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again. God loves you!
Stuart Dauermann posted a comment · Feb 15, 2021
Extremely well done and comprehensive. People should not be naive, nor should we throw stones. I suggest that the Christian Celebrity Culture is significantly to blame. Reading 2 Corinthians will demonstrate that Paul rejected this status and discounted and distrusted the figures who were playing that role in Corinth, who he termed "false apostles." But the people of God in our day want celebrity leaders, and what someone to whom they can point as superior to the people in "the world" whom they despise. We should repent of our contempt of others, and our adoration of these figureheads. The two go together.
B.W. posted a comment · Feb 15, 2021
God have Mercy!