P N Chong posted a comment · Mar 05, 2017
The following are some comments I sent to Pastor Yang after I saw your article on Charisma News. It was initially brought to my attention by a person in Pastor Yang's Cornerstone Church. Apart from deleting the name of this person, I have also made some grammatical corrections, and clarified some statements. "Thank you for replying, Pastor Yang. I have read and studied MB's two books on hyper-grace. I know his position. And with some exceptions, I am in line with his convictions. I have also benefitted from his books on Jewish evangelism. I speak to Jews whenever I can. The problem with his article, which " . . . " sent me, and which somehow came to me on google, was that by stating so many points of agreement with JP, he (Michael Brown) appears to stand in solidarity with JP. I read that article carefully. Not less than 8 times, and also with other words, MB declares that he agrees with JP. To those who know less, and I think that may include many members in Cornerstone, that article may have encouraged them to follow JP. And you will agree that that is dangerous. The apostles Paul and John warned us of associating with such types. There is an article on the web, dated 26 Jan 2017, on Polemics Report, with a picture of MB's right hand on JP's shoulder, both smiling widely. The title was "Michael Brown Issues Thumbs-Up to Joseph Prince." How do you think the average church member will react to a title like that? I think serious damage-control might be in order. While MB is now engaging with JP privately, people may be tempted to explore JB's "hyper-grace"! It seems to me that in trying to reach out to JP, and while he is reaching out to JP, the sheep are being led to the wolves! I think that article is a potential disaster! The writer of that report wrote, "It seems that Brown's charismania lacks the Holy Spirit almost together, if the absence of discernment in their camp is any indication." But I am not so concern of MB's lack of discernment, if any. I am concern about the effects of that article on those who need our leaders' guidance and protection. It seems to me that the leaders are in danger of leading the sheep into deceptive paths! There is no shortage of people who have engaged JP. Tons of articles have appeared on the net. For example Justin Peters had a video on JP's heresy. As far as I know, the Biblical guide is a straightforward repudiation of that which is wrong. The Bible shows us how Paul, Peter, John and Jude deal with those who would try to mess up the temple of the Living God. Perhaps post-modern attitude has entered the church? Perhaps we are trying to say we know better than the apostles! We want to be nice and not belligerent? You had spent 6 hours debating Joseph Prince, and people continue to be deceived. What has changed? I am a mere lay person, and possess no authority. But I would spend time warning others of JP's deceit. Thankfully, by God's grace, I had managed to turn some away from JP's dangerous heresy. I hope Cornerstone will have a session with you, or your appointees explaining and warning your congregation about the misleading article by MB, and about JP's heresy. It is OK that I am not involved. But I hope you will address that and correct things to your church members. May God enrich you with wisdom that you may shepherd your flock to glorify our Lord. P N Chong" Dear Dr Brown, you know that not everything in heretical doctrines are necessary wrong. The danger is distortion of what which is true. All that flies have to do is to lay some excrements on the food, and they will create trouble. By emphasizing so many points of agreement with JP in such a manner, you had undermined the dangerous elements of JP's teachings. In trying to be "gracious" and "brotherly" to JP, you may have just made yourself "cruel" to the average sheep, and undermined what Scripture teaches.
Sharon Unger posted a comment · Feb 03, 2017
I'm glad to hear of your dialog with each other about your views on the grace movement, it reminds me of the book of Acts when many of the the desciples disagreed with Paul but they would all meet together and pray and discuss their concerns and they were able to come to agreement as they worked it out among themselves with the Lord's help I'm sure ! Praising God for this uncountered between the two of you! Glad to know that Joseph Prince is on the right path as far as the word of truth goes .
Christina889 posted a comment · Jan 30, 2017
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Rev. Randy K. posted a comment · Jan 29, 2017
That is an interesting perspective Letoka; however, I thought just the opposite. It looks to me like Dr. Brown is enjoying the peace of God and the grace of God while Mr. Prince--who claims to have a greater revelation of God's grace than all the rest of us--does not look like he is at peace, nor does it look like he is enjoying the grace of God. Maybe his conscience was bothering him for not being totally honest in his meeting with Dr. Brown. Mr. Prince has either changed his beliefs quite a bit from what he wrote in his book, "Destined To Reign," or else he was not being truthful with Dr. Brown. Having read his book enough times, I would certainly enjoy having an interview with him. To being with, I would like to know if he still believes that most of Jesus' teachings don't apply to those of us under the New Covenant because when Jesus came He was still ministering under the Old Covenant.
T. Letoka posted a comment · Jan 29, 2017
That picture of yours with that guy is disappointing, you're too soft. God does not have cheap grace
Deancooper posted a comment · Jan 27, 2017
We can all "agree that God calls us to holiness, that sin is terribly destructive", or that grace "teaches us to say ‘No’ to ungodliness and worldly passions", but in the end, if grace means all of our sins (both present and future) are forgiven, then what does it matter? Take a more minor sin like that of over eating. It may well have consequences, but if I'm forgiven and going to heaven, then the price that I'll pay for that over-indulgence seems insignificant. It seems to me that something is missing in this discussion on grace. Where does the fear of the Lord fit into all this, or dying to self? To me, it isn't that grace empowers us, or teaches us, or calls us to die to self. It's simply that when you accept God's grace, you agree to His terms, which are that you die to self and enthrone God as Lord of your life. For me, grace is God's loving kindness that paid the price so the door to His kingdom is now open. But by going through that door, you enter His kingdom -- where He rules and reigns. If He doesn't reign in your life, then you haven't gone through that door and you haven't received His grace. And if you try to go through that door but fail to make Him Lord of your life, then there should be real fear of what will happen to you. No?
Rev. Randy K. posted a comment · Jan 27, 2017
While I respect you as much as any Christian leader in the Body of Christ Dr. Brown, I have to respectfully disagree with you. I believe this is the first time I have disagreed with something you have written that is of any significance. One question I would have liked for you to ask Joseph Prince is whether he still agrees with everything he has written or whether he has changed some of his viewpoints. I have read both of your books on grace and Joseph Prince's book on grace, "Destined to Reign." In fact, I have read over Joseph Prince's book several times. The first big problem I have with Prince's teaching on grace is his insistence that most of Jesus' teachings don't apply to those of us under the New Covenant because when Jesus came He was still ministering out of the Old Covenant. What a convenient way to get around so many of Jesus' teachings on asking for forgiveness and the need for believers to repent. That teaching is flat out heresy. There are close to a dozen other teachings of Prince on grace, such as "Once Saved, Always Saved," that are contrary to the Holy Scriptures. I don't have time to go into all of them right now, but I would encourage you to read his book, "Destined to Reign" if you haven't. It is a real eye-opener. Prince either changed his belief about holiness or he wasn't being honest with you Dr. Brown because he is quite insistent in his book that once we are born again we are as holy as we will ever be. And yet in your article here you say that he agrees that sanctification (holiness) is a process. So, which way is it? Did he change his belief on this issue or was he being dishonest with you? In his book, Prince is also adamant that God does not discipline us. Yet in your article here he claims he does believe that God does discipline us. In his book he is also adamant that the Holy Spirit NEVER convicts Christians of sin. He argues that the Holy Spirit only ever convicts Christians that they are righteous. But in your article here he says something different. What I will pray Dr. Brown is that you are led to read Prince's book, "Destined to Reign" if you haven't, and read it again if you have, and then meet with him again and ask him about all these things he has written in his book that completely contradict the Holy Scriptures and find out whether he has changed his belief about all these things. If so, he should write another book to let us all know which things he has changed his belief on and why. Gotta run right now, but I have more to say on this subject.