Why I Reject a Pre-tribulation Rapture

Posted May 29, 2020 by Staff
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texasaggie posted a comment · Jun 03, 2020
I can see the point that the Bible could be seen to support only one coming of Jesus at the end of the Tribulation but there are scriptures that seems to show him coming before the end also. For example, John Shorey, a mid-trib rapture proponent, points out that Matthew 24:29 where the sun and moon are darkened and the stars fall, and the sign of the Son of Man appears in heaven seems a lot like Revelation 6:12-13, which is not at the end of the Tribulation in the book of Revelation. I also can't see the purpose of a post-tribulation rapture since the "show" would seem to be basically over at that point, so why not leave the believers on the earth since they would be protected by Jesus and his angels as he does away with the armies invading Israel anyway.? I also don't see that the final week of Daniel has been completed at the destruction of the second temple. Some in the past have tried to force fit Jesus' ministry as a fulfillment of half of that week by making it into a 3 1/2 year ministry, but Michael Rood points out that most of the early church fathers said it was a little over a year long and a number of ancient Greek manuscripts don't have the out-of-place extra Passovers that the Bibles we have today include. A final week of Daniel yet to come does not in any way require a pre-trib rapture. For example, Joel Richardson, a prominent end times teacher, believes in a post tribulation rapture but also Daniel's last week as the Tribulation period. I can see God dividing Daniel's weeks into distinct periods as allowing for the possibility of gaps in between, as needed, such as "until the fullness of the gentiles has come in". Sorry for opening this can of worms but I am not totally sold yet on a post-trib rapture even though I don't believe the pre-trib rapture concept holds up to the scriptures.
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SteveW posted a comment · May 30, 2020
Hi Dr Brown - I think you are confusing the "birth pangs", which lead up to the Great Tribulation (GT), with the GT. There will be plenty tribulation for Christians in this period, but the GT is a whole different ball game. For a Christian expecting to go through the GT would be like Noah saying "I don't need to get on the Ark because God will protect me from the flood waters when they come". No, not going to happen! Take the great evils of the Holocaust and multiply them by a 1000 and you still won't be any where near what is coming in the GT. Try preaching the Gospel to someone who's only thought is to kill themselves, but is not able to do it. That's why God has Angel's preach the Gospel in the second half of th GT and not man. God ays that we are not appointed to Wrath. Now that's what I call Good News!! God Bless. Steve.
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SteveW posted a comment · May 30, 2020
Hi Dr Brown - I think you are confusing the "birth pangs", which lead up to the Great Tribulation (GT), with the GT. There will be plenty tribulation for Christians in this period, but the GT is a whole different ball game. For a Christian expecting to go through the GT would be like Noah saying "I don't need to get on the Ark because God will protect me from the flood waters when they come". No, not going to happen! Take the great evils of the Holocaust and multiply them by a 1000 and you still won't be any where near what is coming in the GT. Try preaching the Gospel to someone who's only thought is to kill themselves, but is not able to do it. That's why God has Angel's preach the Gospel in the second half of th GT and not man. God ays that we are not appointed to Wrath. Now that's what I call Good News!! God Bless. Steve.